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什麼是天主教及基督教的信仰?

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beebeechan 2025/8/1 07:04
本帖最後由 beebeechan 於 2025/8/1 07:53 編輯
其實成條問題,我一問gemini,
jimmychauck 發表於 2025/8/1 06:21



    依家AI更使人唔使用下腦。

我用同一字眼又問gemini...
佢又唔係回答同一樣既野喎,
只係在網上亂執一堆野....炒埋一碟
Q: does 1 peter 2:9 royal priesthood comes from exodus 19:6



Yes, there is a clear and direct connection between 1 Peter 2:9 and Exodus 19:6. Scholars and biblical commentators widely agree that the language used by Peter is a direct allusion to or a quotation of the Old Testament passage.

Here's a breakdown of the connection:

The Original Context in Exodus 19:6: In this passage, God speaks to the Israelites through Moses, promising that if they obey His voice and keep His covenant, they will be His "treasured possession...a kingdom of priests and a holy nation." This promise established Israel's unique identity and purpose as a people set apart to mediate between God and the nations, and to represent Him to the world.

The Application in 1 Peter 2:9: Peter, writing to a scattered group of early Christians (both Jewish and Gentile believers), applies these same titles to them. He writes, "But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession..." By using these terms, Peter is essentially saying that the promises and identity once belonging to Old Testament Israel are now fulfilled in the Christian church.

Key Differences in Translation:
It's worth noting that while the sentiment is the same, there are slight variations in how the phrases are translated. The Hebrew of Exodus 19:6 is often rendered as "a kingdom of priests," while the Greek translation (LXX) and Peter's rendering is "a royal priesthood." Both phrases convey the same meaning: a people who are both kings and priests, with direct access to God and a role in serving Him and the world.

In summary, Peter's use of "royal priesthood" in 1 Peter 2:9 is not a new or separate idea, but a direct and deliberate reapplication of the covenant promises from Exodus 19:6 to the New Testament church. This highlights the continuity between God's people in the Old and New Covenants and the fulfillment of Old Testament promises in Christ.

好似睇你好唔好采, 執到咩咁。

如係科學, 客觀...係咪應無次出既回應都要相同?
盡信AI, 好易扑街就真
beebeechan 2025/8/1 07:12
本帖最後由 beebeechan 於 2025/8/1 07:17 編輯

我又去問問ChatGPT




Q: does 1 peter 2:9 royal priesthood comes from exodus 19:6


Yes, 1 Peter 2:9 draws directly from Exodus 19:6 in both language and theological meaning.


1 Peter 2:9 (ESV)
"But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession..."


Exodus 19:6 (ESV)
"...you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation."


Connection:
"Royal priesthood" in 1 Peter = "kingdom of priests" in Exodus.


"Holy nation" appears in both verses.


"People for his own possession" reflects God’s covenant claim on Israel in Exodus and elsewhere (cf. Deut. 7:6).


Meaning and Background:
In Exodus 19:6, God gives Israel a covenant identity at Mount Sinai—if they obey, they are to represent Him to the nations as His priestly people.


In 1 Peter 2:9, the apostle applies this same identity to the Christian community, both Jew and Gentile believers, showing that the Church now fulfills this role of God’s covenant people.




So yes, 1 Peter 2:9 very intentionally echoes and builds upon the identity God gave to Israel in Exodus 19:6.

回應又有唔同喎
係話伯多祿說天主給以色列民kingdom of priests既身份, 現在都給了教會。
無話人人都可以做肋未人咁主祭。
第日要用AI回話, 都要講明係出自邊派: 係劍宗, 定係氣宗咁
唔係個個AI 都一至。
beebeechan 2025/8/1 07:19
見你AI照搬, 牧師話照搬.....唔需要聖靈引領囉
抽刀斷水 2025/8/1 11:07
你地點知聖靈引領緊你讀經?
jimmychauck 2025/8/1 15:03
回覆 240# beebeechan
無錯,舊約裡司祭係一堆。 不過呢堆唔係指一般以色列民, 獨指肋未人啵。

出谷紀19:6既然講到以以列民是司 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2025/8/1 06:50

瞓醒未?"一堆"係用黎破你將祭司職份嘅分發延申落"唯一"嘅中保到。你永遠唔知人地覆緊你乜野嘅?


回覆 241# beebeechan
乜無話可說到要搵gemini , 搵都唔緊要, 仲要有字搬字, 不用過腦
beebeechan 發表於 2025/8/1 06:55

我#238上半都講左成七百字啦,你有眼疾?你四帖加埋中文字得個305個,你更加無話可說?

回覆 242# beebeechan
回覆 243# beebeechan
咁你淨係表演抄我問AI,即係你唔識回#238啦。

#242一睇就知有問題啦。
Both phrases convey the same meaning: a people who are both kings and priests, with direct access to God and a role in serving Him and the world.
beebeechan 發表於 2025/8/1 07:04

都講左舊約以色列人君王同祭司一定要分開㗎啦。
呢啲咪就係傻佬用AI同有識之士用AI嘅分別囉,你唔知AI幾時有幻覺,我知呀,我係寫完最後叫AI揾多啲資料,你係唔識做叫AI幫你做晒吖嘛。
jimmychauck 2025/8/1 15:10
回覆 245# 抽刀斷水

聖靈係要把一切的事教導你們,並且讓你們想起我對你們說過的一切,嚴格黎講就冇包讀經,係讀左經之後,見過神的話啦,到唔知咩時候有適合嘅場合就幫你"想起"。

讀經又同研究聖經及同詮釋聖經唔同,唔係話識一兩個buzz word就叫理解晒基督教㗎。
抽刀斷水 2025/8/1 17:42
回覆 247# jimmychauck


    咁又點確定引領緊你既係聖靈而唔係魔鬼?聽講魔鬼都好熟聖經。
beebeechan 2025/8/1 19:32
無錯,舊約裡司祭係一堆。 不過呢堆唔係指一般以色列民, 獨指肋未人啵。

出谷紀19:6既然講到以以列民是司 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2025/8/1 06:50

瞓醒未?"一堆"係用黎破你將祭司職份嘅分發延申落"唯一"嘅中保到。你永遠唔知人地覆緊你乜野嘅?

jimmychauck 發表於 2025/8/1 15:03


以你呢啲咁既寫作水平....真係唔知你覆緊我乜野架。
字就真係「一堆」勒
你係9, 我係8 咁。
beebeechan 2025/8/1 19:33
你地點知聖靈引領緊你讀經?
抽刀斷水 發表於 2025/8/1 11:07


其實好多簡單既事都唔可以用文字, 語文嚟形容到。
例如:肚餓...點用文字嚟形容那肚餓的感覺。
形容不到時, 你又唔會將肚屙的肚痛當咗係肚餓既唔舒服喎。
高潮時既快感...只能覺, 不能語。
你幾崇拜既老子都識講: 道可道,非常道喇。

既然講唔出既感覺, 都無謂多講。
beebeechan 2025/8/1 19:35
本帖最後由 beebeechan 於 2025/8/2 01:53 編輯
嚴格黎講就冇包讀經,係讀左經之後,見過神的話啦,到唔知咩時候有適合嘅場合就幫你"想起"。
jimmychauck 發表於 2025/8/1 15:10


咁我睇完本鹹濕寫真露毛集.....到唔知咩時候有適合嘅場合就"想起"
都係聖靈引領
beebeechan 2025/8/1 19:40
回覆 242# beebeechan
回覆 243# beebeechan
咁你淨係表演抄我問AI,即係你唔識回#238啦

jimmychauck 發表於 2025/8/1 15:03



242, 243, 238.....你睇169喇
咁既回應頗有意思
beebeechan 2025/8/1 19:57
本帖最後由 beebeechan 於 2025/8/1 20:01 編輯
贖罪之祭我講左N次,大祭司獻完一次永遠嘅贖罪祭之後就坐低㗎啦。你成日話要咩神父司祭星期日先獻得果啲,到底係咩祭?
jimmychauck 發表於 2025/8/1 15:03


你真係要惡補一下舊約經書, 唔好淨係睇福音, 聽牧師亂翕 (亂翕到你都要跺清xx堂既塵土咁講)


乜大司祭只係一年做一次咁爽架?? 唔係囉。


出谷紀29章, 是梅瑟按立亞郎為大司祭後的一堆吩咐,

第38節:你每天應照常在祭壇上奉獻兩隻一歲的羔羊:        
29:39        早晨獻一隻,傍晚獻一隻。

大司祭都要日日開工喎

B按
你成日用不正確的資料來作結論, 即係耶穌一早批咗既:將屋建在砂上。
抽刀斷水 2025/8/2 01:33
其實好多簡單既事都唔可以用文字, 語文嚟形容到。
例如:肚餓...點用文字嚟形容那肚餓的感覺。
形容不到時 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2025/8/1 19:33



    我只係擔心,信徒滿以為聖靈引領緊你,其實係魔鬼,或者自身有精神病,咁就好大鑊。你做咗咁耐資深教徒,都話係形容唔到,以不同感覺作類比,即係無標準衡量靠feel啦。

我又唔係特別崇拜老子,老莊把「道」形容為模糊不能完全被理解,無所不在而又是最高標準,容易成為對人的一種無形規範,使人自我審查,便於操控。我睇道德經,唔係好似你睇聖經咁既態度架。
beebeechan 2025/8/2 02:19
我只係擔心,信徒滿以為聖靈引領緊你,其實係魔鬼,或者自身有精神病,咁就好大鑊。你做咗咁耐資深 ...
抽刀斷水 發表於 2025/8/2 01:33



    有日你收到個視頻, 係亞抽仔個樣, 話依家俾人脅持住, 要一千幾百先肯放人.....

咁你係咪真無能力判斷呢條片係AI製作, 定係堅料:個仔在嗌救命咁呢?

少擔心喎, 到時你係會有能力分辨既
beebeechan 2025/8/2 02:49
本帖最後由 beebeechan 於 2025/8/2 02:52 編輯
我只係擔心,信徒滿以為聖靈引領緊你,其實係魔鬼,或者自身有精神病,咁就好大鑊。你做咗咁耐資深教徒,都話係形容唔到,以不同感覺作類比,即係無標準衡量靠feel啦。
抽刀斷水 發表於 2025/8/2 01:33



    以前都用過呢個比喻。

南極洲一啲島, 閒閒地都過幾萬隻企鵝聚集。 隻隻都一個模樣。
啲企鵝老荳老母出咗海搵食返嚟, 都識搵番自己仔女個位置架喎, 唔會餵錯仔, 仔認錯老荳。我唔知佢哋靠乜嚟認到勒。

天主造動物都俾咗佢哋本能, 無理由人就唔俾卦。
jimmychauck 2025/8/2 02:56
回覆 249# beebeechan
以你呢啲咁既寫作水平....真係唔知你覆緊我乜野架。
字就真係「一堆」勒
你係9, 我係8 咁。 ...
beebeechan 發表於 2025/8/1 19:32
回覆 220# beebeechan
jimmychauck 發表於 2025/7/31 21:52

標題已寫清楚係"回覆 220#",作為一個老師都唔識睇題目錄(或者其實連自己講過乜,引過乜,都唔知),就只能稱你為失敗。


回覆 253# beebeechan
你真係要惡補一下舊約經書, 唔好淨係睇福音, 聽牧師亂翕 (亂翕到你都要跺清xx堂既塵土咁講)
乜大司祭只係一年做一次咁爽架?? 唔係囉。
beebeechan 發表於 2025/8/1 19:57
贖罪之祭我講左N次,大祭司獻完一次永遠嘅贖罪祭

舊約嘅祭司邊個有曾獻上永遠嘅贖罪祭?
連咁簡單嘅排除法都唔識?你有臉面話我冇邏輯?簡直老鼠上天平。
RSV Heb 10:12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God

你一係就唔記得自己話耶穌大祭司過大祭司。
一係你就覺得自己講過嘅係癈嘅冇參考價值。
一係你冇讀過呢段神嘅話。
一係你冇聖靈提醒你想起呢段神嘅話。
一係你自己轉數太慢。

我自己揀啦。我冇補充。
jimmychauck 2025/8/2 02:58
回覆 251# beebeechan

寫真集對你黎講都係神嘅話,咁所以聖經外你咪有其他權威囉。你係咪可以叫聖公會路德宗信義會果啲去幫你認證吓啲寫真集係咪關佢地事?
jimmychauck 2025/8/2 04:34
回覆 248# 抽刀斷水

1Jn 4:1  親愛的弟兄啊,一切的靈,你們不可都信,總要試驗那些靈是出於神的不是,因為世上有許多假先知已經出來了。 
1Jn 4:2  凡靈認耶穌基督是成了肉身來的,就是出於神的;從此你們可以認出神的靈來。 
1Jn 4:3  凡靈不認耶穌,就不是出於神;這是那敵基督者的靈。

Gal 5:22  聖靈所結的果子,就是仁愛、喜樂、和平、忍耐、恩慈、良善、信實、 
Gal 5:23  溫柔、節制。這樣的事沒有律法禁止。 

Mat 7:15  「你們要防備假先知。他們到你們這裡來,外面披著羊皮,裡面卻是殘暴的狼。 
Mat 7:16  憑著他們的果子,就可以認出他們來。

加埋咪解到囉。

驗靈有驗靈嘅方法,聖靈有聖靈嘅果子俾你認出,叫你想起啲經文走去殺人放火果啲就斷估唔係聖靈啦。斷估聖靈感動一個人,就唔會叫佢無中生有其他人冇講過嘅說話去gaslight人地嘅。

魔鬼都熟聖經,但次次都係斷章取義㗎,咁啱耶穌仲熟聖經,咪睇到佢嘅教導違反另外啲經文囉,你見魔鬼出三招,耶穌三次都係經上(又)記著說,就知道最老土嘅招式夠晒用啦。呢個故事教訓我地,一個人唔以經解經解到冇矛盾,斷章取義隨口噏,其他人提佢另外經文唔係咁講,佢閉口不回無動於衷依然故我,就只不過係魔鬼咁嘅level啫。

你兩次問嘅問題,什至平時問開嘅問題,聖經度成日有解答㗎,不過你話你自己嘥夠時間已唔會再睇(而繼續慕唔知咩道)吖嘛,咁就有啲野你係無從稽考㗎啦。
beebeechan 2025/8/2 11:04
舊約嘅祭司邊個有曾獻上永遠嘅贖罪祭?
jimmychauck 發表於 2025/8/2 02:56


首先, 係你寫野唔清楚, 一個「大祭司」,, 又唔指明係耶穌,
依家先話唔係舊約嗰啲肋未大司祭。

於是就話我無邏輯, 老鼠唔上天秤 (唔係平)
beebeechan 2025/8/2 11:05
驗靈有驗靈嘅方法,聖靈有聖靈嘅果子俾你認出,
jimmychauck 發表於 2025/8/2 02:56


咁如果抽水認出你呢啲果子, 然後好抗拒耶穌呢?
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