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回覆 beebeechan 好采你依家都認同關我叉事教既教理早已被拆到零零碎碎, 不似原形。 | |||||||||||||||||||
你講黎講去，有Ex opere operato，點解神父唔叫雞你都係解答唔到。 Ex opere operato係你提出嘅。 點解唔叫雞又係你提出嘅。 你對呢兩件事咁有興趣，我見到就跟足你劇本問㗎咋。點解你自己提出嘅野帶來嘅問題自己解答唔到？係咪因為個嘴個面未打得夠腫？ | |||||||||||||||||||
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回覆 beebeechan 點解有 Ex opere operato, 神父就可以叫雞?你明唔明我#61 教咗你乜野?! | |||||||||||||||||||
其實你嘅表現完全天主教吖，因為自己講過嘅乜野都要無誤，所以發現左矛盾就收唔返，就唯有用啲鳩噏冚吓。結 ... 你打咗咁L多無謂既字, 實在想講乜 無野反駁就收皮, 睇世界杯喇 | |||||||||||||||||||
其實你嘅表現完全天主教吖， 我梗係天主教喇, 唔通好似你咁話係基督教, 實在天不成, 基不就, 宗教異形! 正正引証咗 Thomas Paine 倡導既「我的心就是我的教會」係好唔掂既 | |||||||||||||||||||
回覆 65# beebeechan 你明唔明我#61 教咗你乜野?! 你覺得一邊話信耶穌一邊叫雞，會影響得救，所以因信稱義有問題吖嘛。 但Ex opere operato就正正係話，神父殺人放火先再叫埋雞，都完全唔影響 神聖儀式（如聖體、洗禮、告解、傅油）的屬靈功效，取決於神本身，而不取決於主持儀式的神父道德有多高尚。 喂你講㗎喎，三口六面聽住㗎喎。道德如何都不影響聖禮功效呀，點解唔叫雞？ 一個"獲救"係影響(你話有㗎咋)，一個"聖禮功效"係完全唔影響，兩者完全係polar opposite，你知唔知你自己答左乜？你知唔知你自己教緊乜？ 當日我話"因信稱義"==>行為不影響得救，你就饒有興緻咁攞叫雞出黎講，話就叫雞影響得救，所以"因信稱義"不成立； 今日你話"Ex opere operato"==>神父道德不影響神聖儀式功效，我就提你你以前饒有興緻咁攞叫雞出黎講，你就話"Ex opere operato"成立。
兩樣的的天枰法碼？喂你都唔算兩樣法碼啦，你一個法碼係物質造，一個係反物質造喎。 你啲咁冇品嘅人，人地講乜從來冇能力反駁，學咩人講世界杯，學咩人講無野反駁就收皮？我野野隊到你正一正，你條粉蛋仲無知當智慧，全身穿晒劍窿都當自己鐵布衫。 淨係識信口雌黃張口就來鳩噏行禮就返鄉下食屎啦。 | |||||||||||||||||||
所有基督宗教, 不論是否關我叉事...都認同耶穌是天主子, 三位一體中的一個品位, 降生成人來親自說教, 贖 ... 人云亦云，道聽途說麼？ | |||||||||||||||||||
人云亦云，道聽途說麼？ 你何嘗不是Thomas Paine 云, 你亦云 後記: 維基云, 你亦云! | |||||||||||||||||||
記錄記載說, 15-16世紀燒女巫最多的地方, 是在德國, 英國. 在中世紀不是羅馬教廷有大影響力的地區。 你肯定當時德國不是羅馬教廷勢力地方？ Although the fully developed crime of witchcraft, including Sabbaths, emerged in fifteenth-century Europe, the vast majority of Europe's witch trials occurred long after the Protestant Reformation. Particularly in Germany, Protestant and Catholic scholars have waged a long and inconclusive struggle over which religious group prosecuted witches more ferociously. Germany's Protestant rulers conducted most of the early witch-hunts, but Germany's Catholic prince-bishops committed the worst witch-hunting excesses. However, extremely few witches were condemned to death in regions populated by Orthodox Christians, and none in Balkan regions controlled by the Ottoman Empire. Nevertheless, it seems clear that the epicenter of European witch-hunting lay in the Germanic core of the Holy Roman Empire. Wolfgang Behringer, the leading expert in the field, estimates that more than twenty thousand executions occurred in what is present-day Germany, more than in all other parts of Europe combined. https://www.encyclopedia.com/soc ... witch-trials-europe | |||||||||||||||||||
回覆 beebeechan 叫雞係影響神父牧師自身既得救。 剛叫過雞既牧師同你施洗, 唔影響你受洗者所獲的恩典, 因為是來自神, 唔係個牧師俾你既。 咁L簡單你都可以扮唔明, 你係咪有「哈佛Dior」病? | |||||||||||||||||||
你何嘗不是Thomas Paine 云, 你亦云 我轉載啫，無話100%認同內文喎，唔同你。 | |||||||||||||||||||
教廷極不同意書中的言論和方法。教廷的宗教審裁亦不採用《女巫之槌》的方式來處理案件。 在《女巫之槌》出版後便馬上列它在禁書名單內。 我唔知你呢啲資料來源係邊，但具備資料來源既維基就咁講： Kramer presented his text as an official position of the Catholic Church. The book was condemned by top theologians of the Inquisition at the Faculty of Cologne for recommending illegal procedures and for inconsistencies with existing Catholic demonological doctrines.[8] However, Kramer received praise for his work by Pope Innocent VIII in the papal bull Summis desiderantes affectibus.[9] Kramer was never removed and even enjoyed considerable prestige thereafter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarum 請你核對你既資料來源，跟維基的資料來源，哪個比較可信。 | |||||||||||||||||||
在《女巫之槌》出版後便馬上列它在禁書名單內。 我見《女巫之槌》銷量一度僅次於聖經喎，未知教廷係幾時禁呢本書既呢？有無相關記錄？ | |||||||||||||||||||
你先去做下功課, 備下課:這個SSPX是甚麼組織和由來先喇。 連結中有SSPX由來，都算群體集體經驗無錯喎，你仲有無進一步資料可提供？ | |||||||||||||||||||
我唔知你呢啲資料來源係邊，但具備資料來源既維基就咁講： 我都唔係第一次話你知維基, 呢啲人人都入到去放低啲野既公廁式資料庫既野信唔過。虧你仲成日拎佢嚟當寶！ Pope Innocent VIII 既Summis Desiderantes Affectibus 是1484年發表既文件嚟  當時阿Ｋｒａｍｅｒ 仲未寫佢本女巫之槌， 點會書都未出版(1486)就讚定先？ 教宗Ｉnnocent VIII 能知未來咁勁架咩 | |||||||||||||||||||
我見《女巫之槌》銷量一度僅次於聖經喎， 資料出處係邊？ 又係在「公廁」撈到架？ | |||||||||||||||||||
我都唔係第一次話你知維基, 呢啲人人都入到去放低啲野既公廁式資料庫既野信唔過。虧你仲成日拎佢嚟當寶！ ... 你幅圖既來源唔係維基咩？ Its (Summis desiderantes affectibus) direct purport was to ratify the powers already conferred upon Kramer (also known as "Henry Institoris") and James Sprenger to deal with witchcraft as well as heresy 即係讚Kramer獵巫既工作，咁自然佢將會出既關於獵巫既書，都得到肯定啦。 | |||||||||||||||||||
連結中有SSPX由來，都算群體集體經驗無錯喎，你仲有無進一步資料可提供？ ... 你拎嚟既連結內文都好清楚， 教宗點解要絕罸ＳＳＰＸ：擅自按立主教!  主教從來都是教宗任命既。 香港人可唔可以自己搵個特首出嚟? 你用下腦! 你又係只睇標題不睇內文既搬字佬一名! | |||||||||||||||||||
你拎嚟既連結內文都好清楚， 教宗點解要絕罸ＳＳＰＸ：擅自按立主教! 唔係講緊「群體集體經驗」咩？依家講權威邊個話事？咁群乜野體集咩鬼體呀？ |
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