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官方文獻對於神父獨身的要求，往往顧左右而言他，明明早期教會是容許的，為何後來卻不容許？真正原因其實很市儈：神父無家室後裔，所累積的財產便免被轉移，可盡歸教會所有。 修女就比較單純，希望退隱清修，或者在重男輕女的社會當中得到尊重，但卻往往淪為神父教士的洩慾工具，這已是不公開的真相。 我們知道愛情這回事，能快樂也能痛苦，和尚、尼姑都是出家人，談戀愛就有機會產生愛別離、怨憎會、求不得苦等等，惹來煩惱影響修行。 庵堂住持被揭與和尚結婚來港，寶蓮寺男女高僧親密同遊夏威夷，佛教界嘩然，其後還是低調處理，不了了之。 「口裡說不，身體卻很誠實」，如果認同人是受造之物，那隨之附送的當然是具備正常功能的性器官，有正常的性功能和性慾。 問題是：為何口裡要說不？ 為情所傷、為情所困、為情自殺……由英文老歌 "Wise men say only fools rush in..."，到今天內地網絡潮語「切除戀愛腦」，可見很多人都不懂如何「處理」愛情，也希望能逃避這些「引誘」。 對外宣稱獨身，可以減少這方面的誘惑，假如明知自己獨身而對方仍然靠近，就是對方的錯，自己就只是純粹作為被動一方。 另外比較次要的也是面子問題：是我自己選擇遠離愛情，而不是無人問津。而以前的「自梳女」，可以逃離世俗壓力和規條束縛，但現代已不適用。 時移勢易，以前被傳揚歌頌的「癡心情長劍」，為一生所愛終生不再娶，現已被人恥笑為戇居。壓抑情感，自設藩籬，已是不自然的事。 生命苦短，一句「人生有幾多個十年」，已喚醒不少人要及時做要做的事。愛情，除了痛苦，還可以是甜蜜，「人生的彩筆蘸上悲歡愛恨，描畫世上百千態」，我認為這樣過生命更為完整。 | |
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不少宗教的神職人員都有獨身的要求，包括神父、修女、和尚、尼姑…… 全篇文章都是集中講神父獨身的不好處。 建議也在好處思考一下。 為神獨身，與不願為神獨身都不是錯。 各人有不同目標和抱負。 不願獨身而又想多作事奉，還有很多途徑。 | |
不少宗教的神職人員都有獨身的要求，包括神父、修女、和尚、尼姑…… 又係唔識野就亂膠翕。 修會神父都會發神貧願。即不會有私人財產。死了没有甚麼東西可留給修會。 | |
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第一任教宗有老婆，領受有老婆嘅好處，至於後來點解變咗多尐思考有老婆嘅唔好處，都可以有不同理由老作出來 ... 伯多祿未跟耶穌前係有老婆。 跟了耶穌的三年，老婆無話帶埋去跟耶穌四圍去。 耶穌死後伯伯多祿在中亞細亞，羅馬傳教亦無帶住老婆。 基本上都係放棄了佢既Susanna生活，選擇了獨身。 | |
又係唔識野就亂膠翕, 即不會有私人財產? https://tw.news.yahoo.com/%E6%9B%BE%E7%99%BC%E8%B2%A7%E7%AA%AE%E9%A1%98-%E7%A5%9E%E7%88%B6%E9%81%BA%E7%94%A2%E5%88%A4%E6%AD%B8%E6%95%99%E6%9C%83-151921011.html https://www.ctwant.com/article/232544 老冮話齋，幾十歲人咁L naive。我夠發過誓“老婆，我嘅餘生只會有妳一個女人。” | |
回覆 7# beebeechan 所以要多尐思考,冇老婆之人大L把，點解主耶穌千揀萬揀特登要揀一個有老婆伯多6? 我去business trip都特登唔帶老婆。 其實，您以為佢冇同老婆一齊的可能性，除了同我一樣之外，包括: 佢有但經文冇講 佢同老婆感情破裂 佢老婆insists 猶太教 佢想但老婆physical condition不宜遠行 佢想但係傳道經費不足 必需rule out以上才可以斷言“放棄了佢既Susanna生活，選擇了獨身” | |
回覆 beebeechan 咁岩12個門徒,個個既老婆都係: 佢有但經文冇講 佢同老婆感情破裂 佢老婆insists 猶太教 佢想但老婆physical condition不宜遠行 | |
不少宗教的神職人員都有獨身的要求，包括神父、修女、和尚、尼姑…… 若没有一個誠實身體 口裡說不都無意思喇 | |
咁又唔係個個嘅老婆都係，佢地各有不同原因: 伯多祿:佢有老婆同行但經文冇講 安德肋:同老婆感情破裂 雅各伯:老婆insists 猶太教 若望:老婆physical condition不宜遠行 斐里伯:老婆係盲嘅拖慢福傳行程 巴爾多祿茂:子女年幼要湊仔 瑪竇:老婆返工賺錢支持福傳事工 多默:翁姑年邁要照顧 阿斐爾的兒子雅各伯:簽證被拒 熱誠者西滿:旅費不足 達陡:耶穌升天後阿媽年老無依，由佢老婆幫手照顧終老 伊斯加略人猶達斯:燒炭殉夫 | |
回覆 beebeechan 不如作埋...沙文老婆無同行, 因襯老公出門.........猛call外賣, uber eat, 搵人上門整水喉....... | |
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Catholic Doctrinal Evolution 200 AD Immersion of infants who are dying, but considered sinless. (Tertullian V.12) 250 AD North Africa region is first to practice infant baptism and reduced the age of baptism from minors to all newborns. This is opposed by other regions. 257 AD Baptism by sprinkling for adults instead of immersion first used as an exception for those on sick beds, but it caused great dispute. 300 AD Prayers for the dead 320 AD Special dress code of the clergy in worship 325 AD At the general council of Nice, 325, it was proposed indeed, probably by the Western bishop Hosius, to forbid entirely the marriage of priests; but the motion met with strong opposition, and was rejected. 325 AD The date for Easter was set. 379 AD Praying to Mary & Saints. (prayers of Ephraim Syrus) 385 AD In the West, the first prohibition of clerical marriage, which laid claim to universal ecclesiastical authority, proceeded in 385 from the Roman church in the form of a decretal letter of the bishop Siricius to Himerius, bishop of Tarragona in Spain. 389 AD Mariolatry begins with Gregory Nazianzen, who mentions in a eulogy, how Justina had besought the virgin Mary to protect her virginity. 416 AD Infant baptism by immersion commanded of all infants (Council Of Mela, Austin was the principal director) 430 AD Exhalation of Virgin Mary: "Mother of God" first applied by the Council of Ephesus 502 AD Special dress code of the Clergy all the time. 500 AD The "Habit" of Nuns (Black gowns with white tunics) 519 AD Lent 526 AD Extreme Unction 593 AD The Doctrine of Purgatory popularized from the Apocrypha by Gregory the Great 600 AD First use of Latin in worship (Gregory I) 607 AD Boniface III is the first person to take the title of "universal Bishop" by decree of Emperor Phocas. 608 AD Pope Boniface IV. turns the Pantheon in Rome into a temple of Mary ad martyres: the pagan Olympus into a Christian heaven of gods. 670 AD Instrumental music: first organ by Pope Vitalian 709 AD Kissing of Pope Constantine's feet 753 AD Baptism by sprinkling for those on sick beds officially accepted. 787 AD Worship of icons and statue approved (2nd council of Nicea) 787 AD Rome (Latin) and Constantinople (Greek) part ways and begin the drift towards complete split, resulting in two denominations emerging in 1054 AD. 965 AD Baptism of bells instituted by Pope John XIII 850 AD Burning of Holy Candles 995 AD Canonization of dead saints, first by Pope John XV 998 AD Good Friday: fish only and the eating-red meat forbidden 1009 AD Holy water 1022 AD Penance 1054 AD Roman Catholic church breaks away from the Orthodox church 1054 AD Roman Catholics officially embrace instrumental music, Orthodox reject instrumental music down to the present time. 1079 AD Celibacy enforced for priests, bishops, presbyters (Pope Gregory VII) 1090 AD Rosary beads: invented by Peter the Hermit 1095 AD Instrumental music 1190 AD Sale of Indulgences or "tickets to sin" (punishment of sin removed) 1215 AD Transubstantiation by Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council 1215 AD Auricular Confession of sins to priests instituted by Pope Innocent III, (Lateran Council) 1215 AD Mass a Sacrifice of Christ 1217 AD Adoration and Elevation of Host: ie. communion bread (Pope Honrius III) 1230 AD Ringing bells at Mass 1251 AD The Scapular, the brown cloak worn by monks invented by Simon Stock 1268 AD Priestly power of absolution 1311 AD Baptism by sprinkling accepted as the universal standard instead of immersion for all, not just the sick. (Council of Ravenna) 1414 AD Laity no longer offered Lord's cup at communion (Council of Constance) 1439 AD Purgatory a dogma by the Council of Florence (see 593 AD) 1439 AD Doctrine of Seven Sacraments affirmed 1480 AD The Inquisition (of Spain) 1495 AD Papal control of marriage rights 1534 AD Order of Jesuits founded by Loyola 1545 AD Man-made tradition of church made equal to Bible (Council of Trent) 1545 AD Apocryphal books added to Bible (Council of Trent) 1546 AD Justification by human works of merit 1546 AD Mass universally said in Latin (see 600 AD) 1547 AD Confirmation 1560 AD Personal opinions of Pope Pius IV imposed as the official creed 1864 AD Syllabus Errorum [Syllabus of Errors] proclaimed that "Catholic countries" could not tolerate other religions, (no freedom of religion), conscience, separation of church and State condemned, asserted the Pope's temporal authority over all civil rulers (Ratified by Pope Pius IX and Vatican Council) condemned 1870 AD Infallibility of Pope (Vatican council) 1908 AD All Catholics should be christened into the church 1930 AD Public Schools condemned by Pope Pius XII (see 1864 AD) 1950 AD Sinners prayer, invented by Billy Sunday and made popular by Billy Graham. (Some Catholics now use this) 1950 AD Assumption of the body of the Virgin Mary into heaven shortly after her death. (Pope Pius XII) 1954 AD Immaculate conception of Mary proclaimed by Pope Pius XII 1995 AD The use of girls in the traditional alter boy duties 1996 AD Catholics can believe in Evolution (Pope John Paul II) | |
又係唔識野就亂膠翕。 發神貧願呢個風俗幾時開始架？睇到啲同你意見相反既見解，分享一下： Why are Catholic priests required to be celibate when their first pope, Saint Peter, was married? What’s the answer you will hear today? That priests are required to be celibate so that they might be fully devoted to the church. This idea is taken from Paul’s view on singleness as a gift from God to be cherished. It’s a nice idea, but it is also wrong historically. There are a few major time periods in Church History. The Medieval Ages were some of the darkest periods in the history of the church and one of the primary causes was the ever-growing corruptness of the Roman Catholic church. In the Medieval Ages, the church sent thousands and thousands of men to fight in the crusades against Islam. Before leaving, the Catholic church convinced many of these men to bequeath their property and possessions to the church. What was the result? After an estimated 1.7 million people died in the crusades, the Catholic church owned land all over Europe. This land was held by the church and thus, the Priest had ownership of the land. Now imagine if a Priest had a family. If the Priest were to die, then the children and family would have rights to the property. The church would lose much of its property that it had recently gained. They had to protect this land somehow. The easy solution: “Celibacy” But not true celibacy. Celibacy is the commitment to abstain from sexual behavior with others or one’s self. The true intention was to prevent the priests from having legitimate heirs to their property. Priests were not allowed to marry, but they were allowed to have concubines. As many as they wanted. It was not uncommon at all for the concubine and the children to be involved with the church, to help out, and to live on the grounds. However, when the priest eventually passed away, none of these children has rights to the property. Problem Solved. | |
基本上都係放棄了佢既Susanna生活，選擇了獨身。 吹都係您吹先啦 鬼叫經文唔講清楚，我地讀經唔肯定真相就唔可以排除一切可能 | |
没有正確的資料來立論, 論點亦不靠普。 (1) bishop Hosius, to forbid entirely the marriage of priests; but the motion met with strong opposition, and was rejected.(不見有此定案) (2)385 AD In the West, the first prohibition of clerical marriage, which laid claim to universal ecclesiastical authority, proceeded in 385 from the Roman church in the form of a decretal letter of the bishop Siricius to Himerius, bishop of Tarragona in Spain. 最後一個已婚的教宗是Adrian II(792-872) 怎會385年便有禁婚令?! (3)the church sent thousands and thousands of men to fight in the crusades against Islam. Before leaving, the Catholic church convinced many of these men to bequeath their property and possessions to the church. (參軍的大部份是貧農, 你講到個個都係地主!) 太多屎垃圾的史料, 不能一一盡錄。 | |
神父獨身都係被迫既，咪再包裝啦。 全文搬自呢個網: https://www.bible.ca/cath-new-doctrines.htm 網主撰文者: Steve Rudd 主流既釋經網站都話佢亂翕   同是新教的也不認同佢講 https://emmilglenn.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/steve-rudd-is-lying-to-you/ b按 亞抽, 你用埋啲腐爛發臭既魚, 點搞到一席海餐? 食壞人喇! | |
(1) bishop Hosius, to forbid entirely the marriage of priests; but the motion met with strong opposition, and was rejected.(不見有此定案) 話到明rejected又點會係定案，奇怪的腦袋。 (2)385 AD In the West, the first prohibition of clerical marriage, which laid claim to universal ecclesiastical authority, proceeded in 385 from the Roman church in the form of a decretal letter of the bishop Siricius to Himerius, bishop of Tarragona in Spain. The Directa decretal was written by Pope Siricius in February AD 385. It took the form of a long letter to Spanish bishop Himerius of Tarragona replying to the bishop’s requests for directa on various subjects sent several months earlier to Pope Damasus I. It became the first of a series of documents published by the Magisterium that claimed apostolic origin for clerical celibacy and reminded ministers of the altar of the perpetual continence required of them. 有禁婚令同實行到既時間差異，乃貴教內部矛盾問題。 (3)the church sent thousands and thousands of men to fight in the crusades against Islam. Before leaving, the Catholic church convinced many of these men to bequeath their property and possessions to the church. 你既然講得出「參軍的大部份是貧農」，咁講即係有少部分地主啦，即係知道有幾多百分比啦？即係知道財產有幾多啦下話？ |
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